Dr. Tess Lawrie: Insight into the conversation between Dr. Lawrie & Dr. Hill

Dr. Tess Lawrie: An insight into the conversation between Dr. Tess Lawrie & Dr. Andrew Hill, as published in Robert F. Kennedy’s book The Real Anthony Fauci

Dr. Tess Lawrie (MBBCh, PhD) is the Director of the Evidence-based Medicine Consultancy Ltd, and CEO of EbMCsquared CiC, an independent, not for profit, health-focused think tank based in the United Kingdom. She is also the founder of the British Ivermectin Recommendation Development initiative (now called BiRD International) and a co-founder of World Council for Health.

This is an edited segment from the weekly live General Assembly meeting on December 20, 2021. The full meeting can be viewed here.

Here’s what WCH members, staff, and affiliates are saying about Dr. Lawrie’s presentation:

“Thank you Tess!!! You are a hero!!!💖 for Humanity…” -Zafeiria Kakaletri Greek Medical Freedom Alliance

“Tess you are a true hero thank you for your bravery. xx” -Emma Brierly

“Congratulations, Tess, on your courageous steps. Most important for humanity’s future.” -Charles Kovess

“Bravo bravo bravo, Tess, very brave and persistent!!!” -Stephan Becker

“Thank you Tess, you have been pivotal in making people aware of the efficacy of Ivermectin.” -Feisal Mansoor

“Thank you for shining a light on the evil that is there.” -Tina Peers

“Thanks Tess for your courage and ethics and standing up for people and their rights for safety and truth.” -Keren eg

“The world wouldn’t be the same without Tess Laurie!” -Paola Amaldi

“Thank you so very much Tess, from all of us, and from all good people in the world!” -Dr Mark Trozzi

“Bravo for your passion, persistence and courage, Tess!” -Laurent Goldstein

“Hat off to you Tess.” -Nathi Mdladla

“Thank you for shining a light in very dark places, Tess.” -Anne Mc Closkey

“I get goosebumps when Tess talks.” -Dr. Maria Hubmer-Mogg

“Bravo Tess, you’re a real hero of public health!” -Dr Pri Bandara

“Brilliant, thank you Tess.” -Sue Grey


  1. Dr Lawrie’s a beacon of hope, strength and courage. Unfortunately the video of her zoom call with Andrew Hill did not transmit well during this conference (frozen screen, sound cut). Is there any other way to see it? Short conversations like this could have so much more impact than long explanations. Thanks.

  2. Tess deserves a Victoria Cross for outstanding courage and bravery fighting for her country. I think most of us would like to have input into the Commendation! What an honest, trustworthy and caring woman.

  3. literally love her passion and drive, it’s so evident she is the top of her profession. top 10 papers of all time. the evidence has been in plain sight thanks to the team of ivermectin researchers. Also shout out to dr carvallho for carrying out his amazing research, they so despirately try to debunk.. he is so passionate and has nothing but saving lives driving him

  4. I see that you will provide a transcript. Thank you. It’s my hope that you will be either captioning videos or providing transcripts for them. Keep up the great work!

  5. I am sure that I speak for many in saying that I was profoundly impacted by reading the transcription of what struck me as in many ways a tragic conversation with Andrew Hill when excerpts from RFK’s book recently appeared on the Children’s Health Defense website. In future generations this may well become a classic text of medical ethics, or any form of ethics, for that matter, as it somehow encapsulates the perennial struggle between truth and power. We owe you a real debt of gratitude, Dr Lawrie, for having shared not only this painful exchange but also now the supplementary material that demonstrates that Andrew Hill’s support for ivermectin was indeed genuine both and before your dialogue, but that he was sadly unable to extricate himself from institutional constraints that have ultimately stifled freedom of research with devastating consequences (my suspicion is that there may be many others in similar positions as this reflects a systemic problem). This having been said, the fact that UNITAID acted like this also suggests that, even had the meta-analysis been presented to the WHO with the original conclusion, those with a vested interest in suppressing interest in ivermectin would have stopped at nothing to do so in any case – as subsequent developments, including the FDA’s now-famous “horse de-wormer” tweet… have shown. I have just referenced both your conversation with Andrew Hill and interview with FranceSoir/BonSens in a French-language article that can be found here: https://www.laselectiondujour.com/merck-livermectine-et-le-molnupiravir-n1463/

  6. Where is the full video of the conversation between Dr. Lawrie and Dr. Hill?
    If what Dr. Lawrie says is true, it is huge. But extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
    Please, please upload the video in its entirety. Relying on a transcript and partial snippets from the video is not sufficient.

  7. I have been searching in vain for months to find a doctor in the UK who will prescribe ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine so that I can have it on hand, should I contract the virus. Can you help?

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