Film Screening: A Letter to My MP
“The film is very simple. It’s about a group of people who did what they were told was the right thing to do. They’ve been injured and now they’re being ignored. And that’s it.” – James Wells
On June 9, we were joined by director James F. Wells and Dr. Christian Buckland for a screening of the new documentary UK CV Family: A Letter to My MP. It is an honest and poignant glimpse into the journey that far too many people are facing around the world.
Hear James and Christian discuss their motivation in creating the film, concerns they navigated throughout the process, and the goals of the film.
“I wanted [the film] to potentially reach people who maybe had their eyes closed to what’s actually going on. And the only way that I think you can do that is not with information and facts and figures, but it’s telling human stories because all of the people in the film that have been injured –Claire, she could be my mom, Chris could be my brother. All of them are just regular people, just like you and me, that did what they were told was the right thing. And they’ve had their lives turned upside down because of that. And then it’s up to us. They need our help. And that’s the simple message that I wanted to get across in the film.” – James Wells
[00:00:36] Dr. Kat Lindley: Good evening. I’m Dr. Kat Lindley from Texas, member of the steering committee of World Council for Health. It’s my pleasure and honor to have you with us tonight, introducing the movie UK CV Family: A Letter to My MP that was made by James Wells. One of the most important things is the statement that actually introduces the movie.
[00:01:07] And it says they did what they were told was the right thing and now that they are injured, they are being ignored. So I’m going to introduce you tonight to Christian Buckland who has helped James make this movie and a little bit about Christian. Christian is a friend that I met at the Better Way Conference.
[00:01:30] And he’s a psychotherapist who has been in clinical practice for over 10 years. He runs a private clinic working alongside a number of consultant, psychiatrists, psychologists, and psychotherapist, where he helps treat a wide range of psychological and emotional issues such as depression, eating disorders and trauma.
[00:01:51] Christian is a psychological advisor for national mental health charity and is passionate about improving early access to psychological and counseling services. And tonight with Christian is gonna be James Wells, who we know really well. And we are honored to have both of them here. Little bit about James he’s a former British member of European Parliament and a former head of UK trade and business inflation statistics at the office for national statistics.
[00:02:22] One of the things that some people may know or not over the past two years, James has worked on exposing official disinformation and his work led to the office for national statistics being reprimanded by the UK statistics authority for presenting misleading data on vaccine efficacy. And just based on that work alone, I can see where James felt it’s important to tell this story.
[00:02:51] So I’ll leave you to James and Christian to have a conversation. Introduce us to this wonderful movie. Thank you guys.
[00:03:02] James Wells: Thank you, Kat. And thank you to the World Council for Health for supporting this movie and, and also to EBMC squared who co-produced the movie with me. So Dr. Tess Lawrie’s organization. So good evening, everybody. As Kat said, my name’s James Wells, I think the first thing probably to point out actually is I’m not a documentary maker.
[00:03:32] This is I’ve, I’ve, I’ve kind of a little bit of an amateur photographer over over the years, but I’ve never really made any films or anything else. So this is my first venture. The kind of the origins of the film came from actually from a meeting back in March. So I was working with Dr. Tess Lawrie and I actually interviewed Tess back in, in March, which I published on, on rumble, that interview. And so Tess invited me to a meeting and I didn’t really know what the meeting was gonna be about. Cause she said it was to do with vaccine injuries. And so I joined the meeting, it was via zoom.
[00:04:14] And basically we were joined by the leaders of UK CV family, and then a couple of people, some of the members from, from the group as well. And they, they talked about the group, what the group’s aims are and their principles and values. And then we heard from a couple of the members just about their stories, really.
[00:04:36] And particularly Megan, who’s actually in the film. Her story really, really touched me. I mean, Megan is in her early twenties, she’s just literally graduated from university and she had a teaching job set up that she was supposed to go to. And then, because she’s had this vaccine and it’s injured her.
[00:05:00] And there’s been no support, both health wise, financial or or emotional support, you know that her life has been turned upside down and suddenly the job, the dream job that she was gonna do teaching children, which is actually one of the reasons why she says that she had the vaccine, because she was told that to protect others, that she should have the vaccine.
[00:05:24] Because of that, that, you know, she talked about basically, she’s got no hope and that she can’t see a future for herself. And that, that really, really struck me and, and stayed with me. And then, so the next day after that meeting, I thought I’ve gotta do something. I’ve kind of been working as an activist over the last couple of years, trying to, as Kat said sort of dismantle some of the official disformation that we’ve been told.
[00:05:56] And I’ve had some success doing that. But I came away from that meeting thought, I’ve just gotta do more than that. And so I thought, right. Okay, well, I’ll make a film. I’ll make a film, not knowing what I was getting myself into, both in terms of the technical things about it.
[00:06:11] And, and also, you know, I think and I’ll talk a little bit more about that in a minute with, with Christian in terms of, well, this isn’t just any old film, you know, that this is actually working on a very, very sensitive subject with some very, very vulnerable people. And I’ll talk about that and the approach that we took in a, in a minute. But you know, one of the other things that struck me from the meeting was UKC family and, and Charlotte the founder of, of, of the support group and what a fantastic group it is both in terms of their values and principles.
[00:06:51] You know, they don’t, the group has two aims. First of all, it’s a support group for people. It’s a very, very lonely place for a lot of people that have been vaccine injured because, you know, one of the things that Charlotte told me early on, which it didn’t really sink in was that, you know, they, they, they get, get it from both sides, essentially.
[00:07:14] So people that refuse to have the vaccine will say to them, well, how stupid are you for taking the vaccine? And then the people that have had the vaccine and, and think it’s wonderful, think that they’re dangerous and they should shut up. And they’re anti-vax, which is of course ridiculous because these people have had the vaccine, right?
[00:07:35] So it’s not anti-vax. But I came away with those two things. One I’ve gotta do something, but what a fantastic group it is that Charlotte has created. And, and they really do stay true to their, their principles. And I think, you know, that, that I try to carry that through in every aspect of making the film.
[00:07:57] So, you know, this, the film is, is very, very simple. It’s about a group of people who did, what they were told was the right thing to do. They’ve been injured and now they’re being ignored. And, and that’s it simple there’s no, we, we don’t talk about the vaccines. We don’t talk about COVID 19 or the politics around it.
[00:08:20] And that started off really coming from, like I said, the values and principles from the group, but I quickly realized that actually that is the right way to go, because I think one of the things that has become apparent over the last couple of years is the, the way that the establishment and the media have trained people to shut down when they hear any criticism of the vaccine rollout.
[00:08:47] And you know, they, they they’ve been trained just to see it as anti-vax and, and it’s dangerous and they shouldn’t listen. So I, I think I, I, I realized quite early on that actually. The the, the, the way to, to reach people. Cuz one of the things I didn’t want to do was preach to the converted and just talk to people that already realize that there’s an issue with these vaccines and, and they’re not safe and effective, you know, there’s no point in, in speaking and sending that message to the, to the converted.
[00:09:18] I wanted it to potentially reach people who, who maybe had their eyes closed to what’s actually going on. And, and the only way that I think you can do that is not with information and facts and figures, but it’s telling human stories because all of the people in the film that they have been injured, you know, Claire, she could be my mom, Chris could be my brother.
[00:09:45] All of them are just regular people, just like you and me that did what they were told was the right thing. And, and they’ve had their lives turned upside down because of that. And, you know, and then it’s, it’s up to us. They need our help. And that’s the simple message that I wanted to get across in the film.
[00:10:04] And I hope that I’ve, I’ve done that. So in terms of the, the film, so the day after I kind of agreed to do the film and I said to Tess, I’m, I’m gonna make a film. And, and I spoke to Charlotte and asked if they, if they would be part of it and, and Charlotte accepted. First thing I did is I thought, well, God, I’ve, I’ve not only have I not made a documentary before, but I’ve never worked with vulnerable groups.
[00:10:36] I mean, I’ve, I’ve got a master’s in psychology, but so I’ve done a little bit about counseling and, and, and about obviously, you know, understanding the human psyche and stuff, but I’d never actually had any sort of practical experience of it. So the first thing I did was call the director of another film a similar film that’s worked with on a very sensitive topic with vulnerable groups, just to get some advice really on, on, on how should, how, how I should approach it.
[00:11:08] Some of the pitfalls that I’ve gotta watch out for, because, you know, I think, straight away, I realized that I don’t wanna make things worse for, for these people that are putting themselves out there, it’s a big thing. For the people that have appeared in, in the film and it’s a very courageous and brave thing that they’ve done.
[00:11:27] And, and I wanted to make sure that throughout the whole process, that we wouldn’t do anything that would compromise them or, or make things worse for them. So I had that call with that director and I came away absolutely white as a ghost after that, after that call because the, he gave me a lot of the lessons, which they learned the hard way and you know, things like, for example, they filmed.
[00:11:56] People and then didn’t use the content for whatever reason. And, and of course that has repercussions because, you know, you are building up people’s hopes that they can, they can do something to make things better. And then you, you know, you take up their time and film them and then, and then you don’t even use their, their, their, their interviews as part of that.
[00:12:15] So there was all of these myriad of, of, of, of things, which I thought, and I came away thinking, oh my God, what have I got myself into here? But I also knew it was the right thing to do because you know, the reason we had the meeting in the first place was because they’re being ignored. So somebody needs to be a voice for them, and somebody needs to work with them to help try and away raise awareness.
[00:12:40] So I knew it was the right thing to do. But I was pretty scared. So the first thing I did, I, I went to Tess and I said, Tess we need a doctor or a psychologist to support the film because I’m not a hundred percent comfortable in, in understanding all of the things that we need to do to make sure that the approach we take is both sensitive and, and make sure it protects those people that are brave enough to, to, to participate in the film.
[00:13:15] So Tess came through, she put me in touch with Dr. Christian Buckland. I called Christian. We had a long conversation and Christian, like many of the people I’ve met through the WCH over the last few months is an amazing guy.
[00:13:32] He’ll be embarrassed about the fact that I’m saying that, but he is, he’s a really, really one of the good guys. We spent a long time on the phone talking and Christian said, yeah, I’ll support the film. And then me and Christian worked very, very closely over the next few weeks. You know, Christian’s got a full time job.
[00:13:51] So, you know, that’s no small undertaking doing all of this. And there was a lot of work that went in to making sure that we did things the right way. And so I’ll pass over to Christian now who will talk you through what we did and why we did it. Christian.
[00:14:11] Dr. Christian Buckland: Thanks, James. So yeah. Thank you for the nice words there. That’s very kind to you. So. When James contacted me and we started talking about his idea for the project. One thing that was really quite clear to me from the start was we were able to have a good and honest conversation about why this project is important and how we really needed to help raise awareness for everyone who had been injured because you don’t need to be a psychologist or a psychotherapist to know that suppressing trauma is a really dangerous thing to do.
[00:14:45] And that’s what we are seeing at the moment. So yeah, I was absolutely delighted to be asking to be involved. And it was, it was quite fortunate because previously in a, in a different role I had a couple of years back, I’d worked for a TV production company, helping them with their psychological screening and emotional support.
[00:15:05] So we were able to have a good conversation about what was needed to make sure that if we do do the documentary, it’s gonna be done ethically and responsibly, because if it wasn’t, I wasn’t gonna be involved. And it was very nice to kind of have that initial conversation with James and be able to be upfront and say, if this isn’t done well, I can’t be involved because it’s too important.
[00:15:28] We’re dealing with vulnerable people as James has mentioned. So to me, it was really important that initial conversation and I came away thinking actually, do you know what I wanna do this, this is, this is such an essential piece of work. I, I, I remember very, very fondly having a long conversation with James about whether it was the right thing to do the documentary or not.
[00:15:51] So we, I’d already agreed, yes, we’re gonna do it. And then we were looking at, is this the right thing to do? There was so much to think about. And one thing that was really, really vital to both of us was that we don’t want to do harm to people who have already been harmed. But on the flip side, we’re also worried that if we don’t do a documentary for fear of making things worse, we’d probably be colluding with the silencing and the censorship that’s going on.
[00:16:20] And that would be even more damaging. So it was a really important conversation that I had. And I hope James remembers that one because there was a moment in it where we were thinking, should we just not do this at all? Is that the right thing to do? But it, it, it, that conversation evolved over time into actually, you know, we do need to, it is, it is really important to do this because, you know, as I say, we, if people are ignored and silent, it causes so much more problems in the long term.
[00:16:48] So we agreed we’re gonna do it. Because it felt like the right thing to do. And then we sort of talked through in order to make it make the documentary we’ve gotta do it responsibly and ethically. And the most important thing to me at that moment was that anyone who wanted to be involved as a, as someone who had been injured, that actually they needed to be really sure that if they’re gonna be in the film, it’s the right thing for them to be in it.
[00:17:16] Because it can be so easy to look at only benefits of, of doing something and not notice any risk factors. So what we did was everyone who wants to participate or, or was interested in participating. They spent some time with me looking through their individual situation, what had happened to them and also looking at all the different pros and cons of being involved in a documentary.
[00:17:44] And prior to that, I’d spent, I’d spent quite a bit of time with some of my colleagues, trying myself to think of risk factors, pros, and cons of being involved in the film, because this to me is really important. If they’re going to take part in something, I want them to feel that they had had an informed choice as to whether this was right for them.
[00:18:08] And in order to give someone informed choice, you’ve got to give them as much information as you can. So that was really important. So I was sort of thinking off the top of my head and talking with colleagues about what potential pitfalls could there be. So we could give every participant an opportunity to really talk it through in a sort of in, in a, in a compassionate, in a caring environment to work out for them, is it right to take part in the documentary because they also needed to feel there was no pressure that it, as I say, that it was right for them. And the other thing that I was really keen on was, I’m someone who likes to change my mind quite often so it was really important to me that if someone said, yes, I want to take part that actually they could change their mind even after they had made the film with James. Because as I say, you dunno, what’s gonna emerge when you start talking about really, really painful and emotive topics. So what we agreed was that up until the day that the film was released, anyone could pull out if they wanted to, cuz that felt as I say the right thing to do.
[00:19:15] And so we were able to sort of offer time for everyone who wanted to be involved to look at, look at their involvement and come up with the, whether they wanted to be included or not. And I remember saying to one of my colleagues, you know, if everyone decides they don’t want to be involved and we don’t end up making a documentary, does that mean I’ve done a good job because I’ve done my job properly by making sure that no one wants to be involved, but it, it, it was really important to me that was that everyone had an informed choice to be involved because I feel that some people have felt over the past couple of years that hasn’t been offered to them informed consent hasn’t been something that has been freely given. So that was how for me was a really important part of making the documentary to do it ethically and responsibly. But I also wanna just share really quickly, one of my feelings about being involved because actually immersing myself in this for a time has had a huge impact upon me.
[00:20:17] In my day job, I listen to difficult stories on a, on a regular basis. So I’m not, it’s not dissimilar to me to sort of listen to sort of things that are difficult, but actually witnessing just how badly people are being dismissed and silenced. It really alarmed me. Because I know from a psychological perspective that not allowing people who have experienced trauma to talk safely, safely and openly about their experience really does cause significant psychological damage.
[00:20:51] And what we normally see is trauma can easily then turn into PTSD. If we don’t allow someone to talk with care and compassion about what’s happened to them and people are more likely to develop other psychological and mental health conditions such as anxiety, depression, eating disorders, and then they will usually also on top of that adopt unhealthy coping strategies, for example, excessive drinking, binge eating, restricting food.
[00:21:20] So the it’s a really dangerous thing to me to dismiss people’s experiences. And what happens then is you normally see the, the feelings that James touched on right at the start. Actually, you feel, you see hope start to diminish for people. And hopelessness, in my profession, is one of my biggest red flags, cause it usually raises risk levels.
[00:21:44] So for me, witnessing all of this and knowing this could have been avoided by simply being compassionate and encouraging people who have been injured to talk freely about their feelings and experiences. I actually found really quite upsetting. And as I say, I’m used to listening to upsetting stories, but I found this, this one really, really got to me.
[00:22:06] So that’s why this project is so important as I, I, I really hope it’ll help many people feel they’ve been hurt and actually be acknowledged that these injuries have happened. Because if we can get that acknowledgement, then we can start to open up really essential conversations. So I really have been honored and, and, and it’s been a privilege to be involved.
[00:22:31] And I, I really do wanna say thank you, James, for asking me to be involved, but more importantly, I wanna say thank you for everyone who has taken part in, in the documentary and behind the scenes as well, but the participants it’s, it’s been really, really an honor to listen to your story. So thank you.
[00:22:49] Thank you very much everyone.
[00:22:51] James Wells: Thank you, Christian. That was that was really, really lovely words there. And and I think, you know, one of the things I realized quite early on is I don’t think I’d have been able to make the film without you. Because I, I, I think I, you gave me confidence that we were going about things in the right way, so thank you for that.
[00:23:16] Okay. I’m aware of time and we’ve, we’ve been talking for quite a long time. So I do wanna say something before we watch the film. But I’ll, I’ll, I’ll keep it short. As I said, UK CV family is a, is an amazing support group founded by Charlotte a really, truly amazing individual. She does does all this.
[00:23:39] It is literally a full-time job doing this. And she does it for other people. There’s no other reason than she does that is to help other people. So you can go to the website. So it’s www.UKCVfamily.org. And I would encourage you to go and have a look at the website, you can, there’s lots of information on there. But more importantly, if you want to donate to UK CV family, there is a donate button and you can go there and you can give some money to help them with their group and, and, and, and their cause, which, like I said, there’s two aims to the group.
[00:24:19] One is, primarily, it’s a support group for UK vaccine injured. And then secondly, it’s about raising awareness with the, with, with the objective of, if you raise awareness, then you get more support for people, both financial support and also medical support, because a lot, a lot of the people that are injured are being gaslighted and ignored by the medical establishment, as well as the political establishment.
[00:24:46] So thank you. I hope you enjoy the film. It was amazing making it and I shed many tear editing it in this room where I’m sat now. So I am very proud of it. Like I said, I’m not a, a, a, a documentary or a filmmaker. This is my first film. So yeah. Enjoy. Kat.
[00:25:10] Dr. Kat Lindley: Yes. Thank you both for this introduction. And we’ll go ahead right now with the viewing of the movie, and then we’ll convene back after that. So thank you all for joining us.
[00:25:21] Film: This debate is not about all those millions of people who’ve benefited from vaccination. It’s about the tens of thousands who did the right thing were vaccinated, but then as a result, suffered death, serious injury or other life changing adverse consequences. Why should the government be forcing these people to go through the ordeal and delay of having to seek expensive, legal help, instead of enabling their representatives in parliament, to be given the information necessary to establish as their claims.
[00:25:58] The scale of this vaccine, nightmare is now such that the number of vaccine damage cases exceeds all cases arising from previous vaccine programs.
[00:26:31] Hi folks. I’m here at St. Thomas, what I’ve just had my first AstraZeneca vaccine. And quite literally, I did not feel the thing and I cannot stress how important it is for everybody to get their vaccination, get your job when you’re asked to do so. It it’s good for you. It’s good for your family and it’s, it’s a great thing for the whole country.
[00:26:52] So please get your job. Thanks very much, please, please, please get out. And get the job, especially that age group of 18 to 29. And what I would say to that group of people is please get vaccinated for your own benefit for your loved ones, but for your wider community. But as the prime minister has said when it comes to, for example, Mike clubs, by the end of September, we’ve picked September because everyone would’ve had the chance by then every adult to have a double vaccination that you will need to prove your vaccination status.
[00:27:24] And we know that the vaccine not only protects you, but protects those around you. And therefore we will be taking forward the measures to ensure the ation for as a condition of deployment for. In care homes just cannot emphasize enough the impact that they are having on the rest of society. They must really think about the damage they are doing to society by they take up hospital beds that could have been used for someone with maybe a heart problem, or maybe someone who’s waiting for their elective surgery, but instead of protecting themselves and protecting their community, they choose not to get vaccinated.
[00:28:03] If you can be vaccinated and you refuse. That’s a selfish act you’re putting other people’s lives and health at risk. So make it your new year’s resolution far easier than losing weight or keeping a diary, find a walk-in center or make an online appointment. Get that jab and do something or make 22, a happy new year for us.
[00:29:00] March I had the vaccine three or four weeks later, I had the blood clot and I just totally deteriorated from then on I, I, I took it cause I, I, I was doing build works for disabled, external, disabled lifts. And I thought, well, if I’m gonna be working with these people, as they said, I’d be safer off having the vaccine.
[00:29:23] I thought this is a responsible thing. Through March 28th, I had the first vaccine then faxing. Then three weeks later, I started feeling a bit funny. Memory. I, I couldn’t concentrate. It just felt like I was losing the plot a bit. Then I had pains in my leg and my calf. So I went to the doctors, they said it might be a blood clot.
[00:29:51] So I went to the hospital, seen the doctor there and he said, if you’ve got a blood clot, I’ll leave my clipboard. So cuz I was stand. I said, look, I got, I got a pain in my leg. I said, it’s not like a tear or a sprain. I trained for 30 years. And he said, well, are you a doctor? I said, no, I just explaining well, so I went for the sauna, came back and it was a blood clot.
[00:30:17] So he put me on blood thinners then up until August last year for a couple of weeks couldn walk very painful. Then the next, over the next two or three weeks, I couldn’t.
[00:30:38] I started having problems, talking,
[00:30:44] sweating pins in the nights problems talking couldn’t remember things. I was making phone calls, forgotten. I done them completely thought I was going mad. Then all
[00:31:03] hands started. Shaking body started shaking. Couldn’t function at all. Headaches ringing in my ears fits where I was constantly shaking. Couldn’t get my words out. I collapsed once or twice sore throat, chest pains. Went to the doctors, a doctor said, what, what would I like him to do for me? And I just said, well, I dunno, I’m not a doctor.
[00:31:28] I’m a builder. I can build, do a house. I think it was I’ll Sandy. You for blood tests. I walked into,
[00:31:38] but I went down the elevator. I collapsed in the fire came around an a and E shaken, seen a doctor there. They done all the tests said I was fine fit healthy, man. He said he spa to a couple of specialists and it, it might be vaccine related. We don’t know, but don’t worry. You’re fitting healthy, go home.
[00:32:04] Don’t worry about it. So I went home, still having the same problems. I had to give up work. I was just sit in here for the next three or four months with the same problems, constant headaches, shaking totally spaced out the day, all the days, a bit of a blur. My friend used to come around to keep me company To be honest, that from me, June, July was a complete blur.
[00:32:37] I couldn’t really say what happens. All I remember was these symptoms. Every I was dread and waking up in the morning,
[00:32:47] I was dreading on a bed cause I’d be sweating pints. I, I used to put a towel on the bed, sweating pints, waking up, going back and forth to the doctors. They said, no, it’s anxiety. Don’t worry about it. I’ve never had anxiety in my life. I didn’t really understand what anxiety was, but then I think they put me on beat beater, bloggers for anxiety, but nothing, nothing changed.
[00:33:13] It was horrible. And I, I honestly thought I, it was just me. I was losing the plot entirely. So then I had a bit of a seizure here. My friend was with me. We run. The for the hospital. They said he was gonna send an ambulance because my lips were going blue. I couldn’t couldn’t speak. And they said he better off bringing him.
[00:33:41] So I just wanted to know what was wrong. Cause I,
[00:33:47] I thought that was it. I honestly thought I wasn’t gonna pull through, I’d be in contact with AstraZeneca. And my doctor said they were gonna contact AstraZeneca. Nothing has come of it yet. They, they haven’t said anything, but AstraZeneca refused any correspondence. They can’t talk to me. They can’t help me.
[00:34:05] They can’t offer any advice. There’s thousands of thousands of people in the same position as me with no help. There’s no medical help to, to, for us to understand what’s happened. There’s no financial help. We’ve had it. And we just want answers to what stand to us. Yeah. But because nobody talks about the damage is.
[00:34:27] Nobody’s looking into how to resolve it, how to help. As I said, medical financially, we, we, we are all forgotten about we’re on our own. All I want is just somebody to tell me what is wrong. Yeah. And
[00:34:48] help to try and get over of what it is that’s causing these problems.
[00:34:59] We took this vaccine cuz we believed and we were told it was safe and effective. So I took it regret and just regret everything on the 15th of August, 2021. I, my second Pfizer vaccine within 20 minutes I developed palpitations. And I was driving at the time. So this was, you know, I thought I had to pull over, I was gonna go on the motorway and I had to pull over on the, on the slip road, luckily, because I was about to pass out and I, I phoned my parents.
[00:35:36] I didn’t want the phone, an ambulance or anything like that. I’m not that dramatic. So that’s what happened and happened on the way home. And it happened again when I was sitting at the kitchen table and quite surprisingly, within an hour of having the vaccine, I developed a really swollen, sore gland, right.
[00:35:56] You know, under my arm. So that shows a, a really quick reaction. And I developed muscle aches, headache, fever, all of that, all the normal stuff. I developed severe chest pain. And it was absolutely, it was stabbing chest pain. It was all across my chest. Right. And I, I developed left side pain down my arm. My.
[00:36:20] and the palpitations were even more frequent and they were coming, you know, they were coming in waves, you know, with, with, with every time my heart sped up, the pain would, would intensify. It was absolutely horrible. And it was just so my dad took me to away. E obviously I mentioned the vaccine. I mentioned it at every single turn they told me to at the end that I was just being overly anxious.
[00:36:50] So we made the decision to go home, basically. It’s do you wanna die in your own bed or do you wanna die in a hospital waiting room? I had an echocardiogram done in November. So please note, I went to a E in August and it’s taken that long for me to get an echocardiogram. It was normal. He put me on Ivabradine, which is a heart lowering drug.
[00:37:15] It’s a bit like beta blocker. I took that for about a week. I had developed severe leg of pain. So I came off it and what he did see in November, because I had pot symptoms, I did an active stand test for that. And I missed a criteria by two beats per minute. So I never misdiagnosis. And he sort of referred me on to another colleague, but he didn’t say that he was, he didn’t have any follow up for it.
[00:37:53] The cardiologist didn’t really take me seriously. He was quite patronizing to tell the truth, you know, saying he even said he had per carditis when he was younger and it was such a horrible experience. He was in bed and he was in so much pain. Well guess what? So was I I’m, I’m quite sick of it. frankly.
[00:38:16] And he, and he also said, oh, in a, you know, in a year’s time, you’ll be laughing at this. I’ll never be laughing, but he ended up, he did attribute it’s written down on paper that it happened because of the vaccine he saw, you know, that I had tachycardia and it was persist. He, he said, persistent tachycardia, following the pH vaccine.
[00:38:39] That’s what I’ve been sort of diagnosed with. I tried to get in contact about the Ivabradine it was causing, I thought it was causing the leg pain. Obviously. I was worried about deep vein thrombosis. Yeah. And also it wasn’t working either. It wasn’t, it was working for a couple of hours and then it would just stop working.
[00:38:58] And I wanted to con I tried contacting him in his secretary. No response couldn’t get in contact with him. And I found out that disappointment was his other colleague who was an interest in pots. Would. well, it would be in January the 25th. So I had to wait all that time from November to January.
[00:39:22] And by that time I was in severe pain, you know, I’d also developed arthritis in my chest, right. And shoulders. So I’ve got that on top of the cardiac chest pain. I was also having periods of time where I was bed bound for about a week because I would my heart rate was incredibly high and I felt dizzy and I couldn’t sit upright for just couldn’t do anything.
[00:39:55] I was reading. People were saying my myocarditis was not picked up on the ECGs or the echocardiograms. It was picked up on a cardiac MRI. So I thought after doing all that research, I thought I’m gonna have to get a cardiac MRI. so I had to fork out a lot of my, my savings to go privately. And that was in March.
[00:40:19] I did that. It took a long, long time to get a referral. I went to my GP to get a referral for that and they, they flat out refused. They weren’t gonna give me a referral for it, even though it’s private. And the cardiologist was trying to tell me, oh, it’s normal. When some people it’s, it’s, it’s normal to have a bit of fluid around the heart.
[00:40:38] But my understanding is everyone has fluid around, you know, the heart and the pericardial SAC. I think it is. But when it becomes too much, they call it an a fusion. Now why all of a sudden do I have this. if there was some suppose would be nothing wrong. Like the NHS has tried to tell me with my heart, like I was making all of that stuff up back in August.
[00:41:05] Now, why have I suddenly got this? Now? There were so many red flags. I had every symptom on the list for myocarditis. I could have ticked it off, you know, and I’m getting quite upset. Really. I’ve had no treatment for it. There’s no doubt about it. It was vaccine, you know, no one could tell me, otherwise it that’s what happened.
[00:41:26] You know, I was completely healthy before that. And then boom also had the added thing where I had the job, you know, I was gonna go and work in a school with children and I thought, well, they’re not gonna want me if I don’t have a vaccine, are they? Yeah, because I want to protect the children. I don’t wanna give them COVID I don’t want them to get unwell.
[00:41:50] I don’t want to sound too pessimistic, but I don’t don’t hold up much. For my future at all,
[00:42:03] the COVID hit. And I was characterized as a key worker and I was given a letter that said, I must go to work. And what I dealt with was general PPE and I serviced four hospitals, three in Birmingham on one in Lester four, their different types of PPE, their gloves, their masks, their aprons, and lots of other different things.
[00:42:27] The face shields, the goggles, the glasses that, that they wore. My team that was working with me suddenly had to go and stay at home because they were at risk. They didn’t feel comfortable in the climate and everybody that could stay at home didn’t they took my vaccine in may and about a week later, started getting tingling in my toes and then it become tingling in my toes and my hands.
[00:42:52] And I thought, well, this is. . So I popped into the doctors and asked them if they could have a look at me and they refused all your interviews with the doctors over the phone. Aren’t they? So from that, I eventually got through to somebody who prescribed me some paracetamol. She told me I could take so many a day, which didn’t help at all.
[00:43:20] And as the month went on, it become more painful in my feet, not just my toes and the pins and needles were no longer pins and needles. It was as if somebody had set fire to a bonfire, I went to my GP so many times and got multiple referrals without seeing anybody, but never got a conclusion to a referral.
[00:43:47] All the time getting an increase in pain. And the pain was excruciating when I was just lying there and screaming a grown man. And I was in tears and I could do nothing about it. There was nothing else I could add that I knew of, or I’d been prescribed, or I could get from a doctor that was interested.
[00:44:09] So I looked around the internet and I searched for a specific clinic and it was a diabetic clinic being a type two diabetic. It was getting harder to walk. So it wasn’t just these feelings of pain. It was a consistent take a step. And let me show you a bit more pain. It become more intrusive. So my thought.
[00:44:33] Started to feel like it was being crushed. All the tendons were being overstretched up and down and it felt like I was trying to break my own bones as we went into August and September. I’m now in this full blown pain and I’m getting the referrals to the different clinics, but no responses because the system on.gov isn’t working, they’re not taking admittance on there anymore September end of September now. And, and, and I’ve had nothing from anywhere else come forward for all the referrals for all the doctors I want to see.
[00:45:19] And this guy at the end of the phone at this hospital has said, I’ve got you an appointment you’re going in this Friday, the next four days. Well done. Excellent. Went into hospital. I spent two whole weeks in there being seen by multiple doctors, from different factors, having extractions and injections for every single test that you could think of.
[00:45:46] I came out of the hospital without a conclusion, except for on the 13th of October being told that I was now disabled with peripheral neuropathy, as well as autonomic or autonomic neuropathy, as well as Charcot neuropathy, which is. Basically where the fibers either touching the muscles with your nerves or are part of the system that goes through your body in different parts of your body are damaged.
[00:46:22] And it’s the fibers that are damaged. And now there’s things touching the nerves that shouldn’t be. So there’s false messages going in the brain or coming from the brain and being red wrong. So now I’m twitching more. I’ve got it. Halfway up my calves. I’ve got muscle wastage on both legs, top and bottom muscle wastage on my left arm and my left hand where I’m totally restricted from what I can lift do sensibly on my own, the doctor’s prognosis, even though they can’t conclude.
[00:46:59] The diagnosis because they still weren’t satisfied the progression that I was going through. The rapidity of this disorder going through all the limbs from where it started to where it was over a six month period did not make sense. I didn’t put this down to the vaccine at all to start with the correlation only came afterwards.
[00:47:25] When I had to start supplying my discharge notes, my doctor’s notes, my hospital notes for various reasons, somebody knew, needed to read these different ones. And the first one was a week and a half after the first vaccine. And I got into hospital with what I thought was deep vein thrombosis. They, they had me there 14 hours.
[00:47:55] They tested me up and down and they sent me home with a cream and said, no it’s Varis veins. And what it was was all over my legs and my feet, the veins were just bulging as I’d had my second one. And I got a booster with this. My foot started being crushed. All of a sudden the pain increased the, the area that it was covering was dramatic.
[00:48:24] It was all the way up to me, ankle. It felt like I was wearing a rubber shoe, two sizes too small. So it’s just squashing, everything. And that was constant. And inside the bones are doing this and it’s called the Crow foot. So eventually I found out that’s what’s happening to my body, but that came from me, reading up to understand what it might be, whereas it’s coming.
[00:48:50] It cost me my job in the end. Within a period of time, it was decided I wasn’t fit for duty. Couldn’t do any of the roles that I was necessary. I, I couldn’t drive the law, says that if you get neuropathy, you’ve gotta report it to the D V L a I’m not drive. It took a while for it to sink in. It didn’t sink in day one but day two.
[00:49:15] It did. And it upset me. It upset me quite a lot. I felt so lost. And so alone. I had to think, well, how do I keep my house? Yeah. How do I do my job? I’ve got a one year old grandson, how do I play with him? How do I keep up with him? He’s running now. And that strip me. I can’t keep up with him. And I love him to bits, but he’s been taken from me and that’s how it filmed.
[00:49:47] And I thought about it. And I thought, well, where do I go? What do I do? And there was nothing. There’s no pamphlet that you get given. You’re disabled to go and talk to these people. There’s no written format that tells you where you get money from, because you’re now disabled or how you can go about it, or how you deal with your life and you get your supporting.
[00:50:08] I can’t walk up the stairs. I see it in, in my wife, look in her eyes and she’s a brink of tears whenever she has to talk to me, she can’t bear what she’s seeing happening. She hears me scream out in the shower when I’ve stepped in correctly, or I’ve stood up too quick and tweaked me sciatica and got a shot running, you know when it’s got too difficult, I have a little cry out and, and it just upsets her.
[00:50:40] She’s in the background, just crying. Can’t I can’t deal with.
[00:50:48] my difficulties being projected on all of those moms, worried. Mom’s worried to death about the family unit and how we will survive on what we’ve gotta do and how we will get it. And I started with quite a nice savings account and it’s empty. I’ve got nothing left and I’m on universal credit. They can’t make their mind up that I’m disabled or not.
[00:51:12] So they want me to go in every week and tell ’em what I’ve done to look for jobs. I don’t like the idea of where I’ve ended up from taking on board a vaccine, agreeing with the fact that if I took it, then I’m protecting people around me. I’ve gone out there and I’ve done this for everybody. All of you I’ve done the injection, but I’ve come away with the deficit.
[00:51:40] And I’m asking now for people to help. if MPS vote for this bill, what do you want to happen? An adjustment on what they’re telling people from when they’re taking the vaccine, but also a remedy, a recipe for looking at what’s wrong with me and giving me a fix for it. And if you can’t give me a fix, give me some support, cuz I need it.
[00:52:07] You know, I don’t deserve to lose everything. My family doesn’t deserve to lose everything. My CV family doesn’t deserve to lose everything.
[00:52:28] So I had my first AstraZeneca vaccine and my only AstraZeneca vaccine 31st of March last year I had the vaccine 10 o’clock in the morning, five o’clock that evening. I just felt ill. I just felt unwell. Yeah. So so I just went to bed, move on and then wait for the second vaccine until five days later, when I started feeling the headache and which was the main thing, the headache, and I had a pain in my spine on the fifth day of having the headache.
[00:53:32] So this was, would now be 10 days after the vaccine. I started. Feeling sick vomiting had blood clots coming from my nose, a pain in my spine, dizzy. And I just couldn’t seem to focus on anything. And my head was just pound in its most excruciating pain I’ve ever had. I was taking paracetamols UEN aspir.
[00:53:59] Every painkiller you can imagine. Yeah. I was taken to get rid of these and then I started then I took some sumatriptan, which I’m prescribed for my migraines. Didn’t touch it, nothing touched it, not at all. And, and that was what was scary. Was there was something going on in my head that I knew wasn’t normal and I knew it wasn’t normal.
[00:54:19] And then so did my mom and, and my husband, I was standing up holding my head crying in pain, which is when my husband said we need to, you need to do something. Yeah. So as soon as I got to the hospital, they they said we need to do a CT scan on my head. They called me back in and said, your CTS clear.
[00:54:40] We think you’ve just got a migraine, so you can go home. I wasn’t happy. And I said, I’m not happy with that. I, I do think I need a blood test cuz something definitely isn’t. Right. And and the doctor did was quite fine actually. And, and he said, I’ll go and speak to somebody and we’ll let you know.
[00:54:57] And an hour later waiting again, they come back and said we’re just gonna take your blood. And then we’ll go from there. And then I’ve done a blood test an hour later. They called me back in and said okay, we are gonna keep you in just for observation. On the Monday morning, a hematologist come to see me and then said in his words we have a bit of a problem.
[00:55:23] My blood tests were completely off the chart. I had a platelet count that was very, very low at dangerous level. And my Dyma, which would normally be around a hundred to 200, was at about 7,000. Wow. So and this test is the test that tells you or detects whether you have blood clots. And then he explained to me that all of my symptoms were the same as this new disorder that was that had just been identified called VIT vaccine induced thrombosis and thrombocytopenia.
[00:56:07] And this is caused by the AstraZeneca vaccine. He said I’m involved in a WhatsApp group with an expert panel of hemo hematologists. These are the people that have identified this new syndrome called fit and every day at one o’clock we all. Go onto this WhatsApp group. If we want to give a patients new symptoms to see if it’s identifiable as fit.
[00:56:33] He said, and as it stands, you are there we’re, we are convinced that you have fit. Then the following day, I started to get some really bad stomach pains in my upper abdomen. They were excruciating, the doctor came and said that my liver was inflamed. So I went down for an ultrasound, crying in agony, absolutely horrendous.
[00:56:59] And while he was doing the ultrasound and he was pushing around my liver, the pain was just so bad and he was such a, he was such a lovely man. He, he was trying to cheer me up by making jokes and he, he was just so nice. And and then his face changed and I just knew straight away that something was wrong.
[00:57:19] He. He just said, excuse me, for a second, left the room. Then he come back with somebody else and they’d done their doctor nodding at each other and measure. I could hear them measuring things. And, and I, I literally, I just looked and I said is there there’s blood clots what’s wrong? And, and he just said, yes, and you need urgent treatment.
[00:57:42] They explained that the, my portal vein was completely blocked. It was just blood clots, which extended to my splenic vein and my MEIC vein. So basically all around my liver going into my intestines was just blood clots. Right. Which needed urgent treatment. It was the following day that I started to get chest pains and I couldn’t breathe.
[00:58:07] And I was really struggling with breathing. And, and I was, and I, the nurse actually said to me, you’re having a panic attack. So the hematologist then said, well, let’s send you for a chest x-ray and just, just double check. And then it showed our blood clots on the lungs as well. This was the day before my birthday and God, I literally, I honestly thought I am, I’m not gonna make it.
[00:58:30] So I was just learning, thinking, I’m not gonna see my sons again. My husband I was absolutely petrified. This is right in the middle of COVID. Yeah. So I’m guessing your husband and couldn’t see any of, we was WhatsApping and messaging and, and I tried to keep things bubbly and, you know, tried to sort of not scare anybody too much.
[00:58:55] The hardest part of that. And I’ll never forget was my son picked up the phone at home and saw what I’d sent to my husband. And then he messaged me and said, why are you sending dad your life insurance certificate? And. I just had to say, oh, it’s just made me think while I’m in here, you know, that dad wouldn’t know where to find it in case an emergency.
[00:59:21] And so that, that was really hard. But then the hematologist come back, he actually said to me, we don’t know how to treat this properly. Nobody knows. And that is what was so scary. And I just sat and I thought, I need to tell people what symptoms to look out for. Yeah, because my own GP told me I had a migraine.
[00:59:45] And then when I first come to a E, he told me I had a migraine people need to know what, what symptoms. So I wrote two I think it was about fif over 50 newspapers and TV programs. I emailed while I was in hospital. Still ill. Yeah. Most of them ignored me, but I did have two calls. The first was actually from an agency.
[01:00:10] New for the newspaper newspaper agency. And she told me that they wasn’t allowed to print anything that goes against the vaccine or any negativity. What, and then I had another phone call from one of the newspapers. She said, Nope, sorry, we’re not interested. We cannot print any anti-vax stories. And I just said, anti-vax what do you mean?
[01:00:33] Anti-vax? Cause I’m lying in hospital because I’ve had my vaccine vaccine. Yeah. And I was so angry at the ignorance of the government of the tabloids, the TV stations of the social media, J just the everything. Obviously you’re not working. What do you do with yourself during the day? Sleep don’t go anywhere.
[01:00:55] Don’t do anything. I don’t get up. Don’t put makeup on. I don’t see friends. I don’t socialize. I’m too tired. I’m too drained. I just haven’t got the energy. And we also used to hike, walk mountains a lot myself and my husband. We used to go away quite often. I could barely walk the dog now with the unknown of not knowing the long term effects of the vaccine and how these symptoms are gonna last.
[01:01:23] If they’re gonna last or no way at the moment we can plan any future. Your MP is actually a minister and you’ve written to that person. How many times? 50? I think it’s 54 times. And what response have you had? Nothing. I would like to have a conversation with the MP to maybe find some help and solutions to the problems at the moment.
[01:01:47] What would you like to say to those MPS that vote on that vaccine damages bill? That there is no reason to not support or show your support for that bill. We’ve done the right thing. We’ve done what you asked us to do now that it’s gone wrong for thousands of us. Just show your support and allow us to have the help and support that we.
[01:02:16] when I first realized that I was vaccine injured, it was through discovering a group, a worldwide group online that had about 2000 members at the time. A lot of them were American. And they were exploring a lot of testing and investigations. I soon realized that a lot of the people in the groups that were from the UK weren’t getting access to these tests felt completely abandoned by the medical professionals they were seeing under misunderstood, no support for them at all.
[01:02:52] And morale was pretty low among the UK vaccine injured. So I decided to start my own group for them. The main aim of the group is to get support from members, medically and mentally. So trying to raise awareness with researchers, doctors trying to make them aware of what’s happening to us.
[01:03:14] There’s two phases to this. There’s a, there’s a, what I would call a, a fairly acute phase, which is the first four or five months after the injury, where you do feel like you are dying most days, you know, multiple times I went to bed at night and thought, I dunno if I’m gonna wake up. Yeah. You know, your whole, my whole body was vibrating.
[01:03:37] I was getting electric shocks up my legs and arms. The head pressure was exhausting. Just felt like I was wearing a swim hat all the time. The tremors the nausea it just, I honestly thought I was gonna have a stroke in my sleep. And then you have this kind of chronic phase and whether or not some of us have had these injuries, like myocarditis and things in the early phase that haven’t been diagnosed or not is another matter.
[01:04:09] But yes, we do have people with myocarditis per carditis. Thromb. Thrombocytopenia bells, palsy peripheral neuropathy C I D P gillion bar syndrome. So we have, we have the ones that you would see on the, on some yeah. Side effect cards, but we also have this kind of like ongoing and without, you know, you said you’re not a medical professional, neither am I.
[01:04:43] So without medical professionals studying and helping and researching us, how do we know what we’ve had or what we haven’t had? If someone has experienced an injury following a medical procedure, I’d usually expect them to be suffering from some kind of psychological stress or trauma. And if the emotional impact isn’t handled with care, it can greatly damage their physical recovery.
[01:05:04] We know that if a traumatic experience is dismissed or silenced, then the likelihood of developing post traumatic stress disorder. Significantly increases and that can have severe long-term implications for their mental health. And it greatly elevates the person’s risk levels. The worst challenge for me is trying to help people that are suicidal, having suicidal thoughts.
[01:05:28] There seems to be a very dark mental health component to this, this illness for whatever reason, the moods fluctuate quite a lot. And just last week, Caroline and I were up until gone 11 o’clock at night phone in the police because someone had left a suicide note online. Right. So that is very difficult to deal with.
[01:05:50] And in the worldwide groups, I think they’ve had about 15 suicides now, just for lack of support. How does that impact you personally? It’s devastating to know that people are taking their own lives just because they’re not having appropriate support and medical care. Yeah, I, yeah, I , it’s not a, a talked about topic.
[01:06:16] People don’t like to hear it. They either think your story is misinformation and you’re making it up. Yeah. Or they think that you are gullible for having a vaccine in the first place. There’s no, in between we know that all medication has side effects. That’s a fact. Yeah. You know, that’s not to be disputed.
[01:06:35] It’s a scientific fact. So when you have a reaction from a vaccine, suddenly it’s not fact it’s fiction, you know, suddenly you are not believed it’s, it’s not the vaccine. It’s, it’s, you know, it must be this, or it must be that, or, you know, go away. It it’ll get better in time, but it, it doesn’t for some of us, it doesn’t get better in time.
[01:06:57] And we are left with conditions. That could be lifelong. We don’t know because no one’s researched us at the end of the day. People don’t know what. to do with vaccine injured people. Yeah. So you can go to as many people as you like, but if they don’t know what to do with you, you’re not gonna get help. And then there’s GPS that try and blame everything else.
[01:07:20] So start saying, oh, your dad’s side of the family had heart problems. You must have blocked arteries or, you know yeah. Anything to avoid. Yeah. The, the word vaccine injured and a lot of people don’t even mention it sometimes now because they’re so fed up with being ignored when they do. So they just kind of go to the doctors and say, look, I’ve got this, this and this.
[01:07:46] If we can get people to start talking about it and realize that it is a possibility, like I said, all medication has side effects. It can happen. It doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen to everyone. But if we know it’s happening, why are we not addressing these issue? Why are we not being researched? And if we can raise awareness with the media and with MPS, et cetera, then perhaps we can get some research done and perhaps people will talk about it a bit more.
[01:08:19] I’m Dr. Peter McCullough. I am a practicing board, certified internal medicine, cardiovascular specialist in practice in Dallas, Texas United States. I’m also trained in epidemiology. In my estimation. We don’t have accurate estimations of incident rates of vaccine injuries. Why? Because not all individuals are assessed for injuries after they’ve received the vaccine.
[01:08:46] So all we have to follow is the sporadic case data that’s emerging in the peer reviewed literature and in the government safety databases that are around the world. In my clinical practice, I see. And examine patients who have suffered non-fatal as well as unfortunately, fatal injuries after vaccination.
[01:09:09] And I can tell you, in the peer reviewed literature, we have over a thousand publications in the pre-print server system, as well as in the fully vetted in peer-reviewed national library of medicine, pub med citation system, over a thousand a large portion of those 200 are vaccine induced, myocarditis or heart inflammation and damage of which the regulatory agents agencies acknowledge is occurring because of COVID 19 vaccination, because the same vaccines are largely used across the globe.
[01:09:43] And they’re used in large fractions of the population we can expect as well, a global. Crisis. Hi, I’m Natalie. Hi there. My name is Facebook support group, man.
[01:09:58] My name is
[01:10:02] I’m I’m I’m from Italy. I’m a vaccine. And I run a F Facebook group of 255 people who have been injured. Hi, my name is Sean. I’m a research nurse practitioner from the United States of America. We currently have over 3,700 members in our support group, and sadly, we are adding new members every week. I am from Brussels Belgium.
[01:10:29] We have started online support communities in Belgium, France, the UK United States, basically all over the globe because this is happening everywhere. My name is Brianna and I am COVID vaccine injured. I run three support groups, one with 12,700 Americans, another two with three thousand two hundred and three thousand eight hundred international members.
[01:10:53] I was injured by the COVID vaccine. I set up a group of other injured people. We currently have 266. My eldest daughter is Casey Hodgkinson. She is severely VED injured through sharing her story and New Zealand. I had thousands of V injured come to me. I set up a Facebook support group for the is man. We have 110 members directly injured.
[01:11:19] Hello. My name is Anthony Branigan and I’m vaccine injured. I run a support group for people in Ireland who are vaccine injured and also for their supporters. I am Yanna from Germany together with others. I organize several support groups with a total of over a thousand people affected by severe vaccination reactions.
[01:11:41] I am vaccine injured. I run a support group for vaccine injured in Denmark. We have 356 members. Hi, I’m Dallas. And my daughter was vaccine injured. I started a support group for vaccine injured individuals in Canada to provide a safe, common ground for people’s voices to be finally heard because governments have promoted, encouraged, pressured, and then coerced individuals into taking the vaccine.
[01:12:13] They have responsibility for what happens after vaccination and in my view they should be seeking reports from all vaccine individuals. That means each and every person who takes a vaccine should be actually contacted to see if they’ve been injured. Their injuries should be recorded, categorized, properly, evaluated, treated, and then the individual who’s been damaged by the vaccine should be compensated for what they’ve suffered.
[01:12:42] All of the members of UK CV family, they can ask us to contact their MPS. So we just get their basic information and we have a letter ready and we send it out to any, all of the MPS, encouraging them to make contact with their constituents. So some of the people within our group may not have the ability to do that themselves.
[01:13:00] So we’ve got all of that ready to go for them so they can start that conversation. Some of them individually might have tried to contact their MPS since they’ve been ill, but not had much luck, but as a group we’ve we are having actually quite a bit of success, I think, with, with the campaign. So we tell them about what’s going on with their constituent in some cases, multiple constituents.
[01:13:21] So we’ve realized that within our group, there are people who do have the same MP, which is really good. And then the MP can get more information from, from them. We ask them to the MP to make sure that their constituent has got access to all of their healthcare. that they need. So are they being listened to, we want them to find out, are they being listened to by their GPS?
[01:13:42] Are they having any trouble getting hold of a medical exemption? Are they having any trouble at all accessing any kind of healthcare? So we want their, the MP to be aware of that and to do whatever they can to help with that. The second thing we ask the MP to do is to make sure that they, their constituents have access to all the financial support that they might have.
[01:14:04] So people who are. They need to apply for PIP or any other benefits, do they, are they aware of the process? Do they know what they’re doing? Are they having any problems accessing any of that? So we want the MP to check on the financial situation of of their constituents. We want the MP to make contact with so Christopher chop, so that they can find out more about what he is doing for the vaccine damages bill.
[01:14:33] And just learn a little bit more about the challenges that are facing people who are dealing with vaccine injuries. So we just want them to listen. We want them to make direct contact with their constituent. We want them to learn a bit more and we want them to be our voice in parliament.
[01:14:57] Please reply to my letter and show me that you will support me and help me and also show support to
[01:15:13] you’ve got your letter there to your MP. And we’re just gonna go to the end of your road to the post box. Aren’t we to post that letter to. Yeah.
[01:15:33] What my MP to take a championship for me and my disabilities that have come through the vaccine and the injury. I want him to be my voice. He can help me in somewhat to get the bill pass.
[01:15:57] Mr speaker does my rise, honorable friend accept that there is another NHS treatment disaster in the making in the fact that there may be 10,000 or more people who have suffered serious injury or even death as a result of adverse reactions to the COVID 19 vaccinations. And that can he give this assurance that the, there will be justice for these people immediately rather than having to wait for decades.
[01:17:10] Dr. Kat Lindley: Thank you all for joining us and watching this very emotional, very powerful movie. And there were lots of thoughts running through my mind as I was watching them. One of them was, it was a heartbreaking story. It made me cry a few times, but another emotion I had was anger and Dr. Christian Buckland can actually probably understand why there was anger.
[01:17:40] But my profession, at the medical profession, for not listening, for not hearing, for not seeing what’s happening and for letting some of these individuals suffer alone. And I have said this before, but I truly believe that as a medical profession we have failed because our job is to kind of jump in, help figure out what we need to do.
[01:18:09] And for a lot of participants of this movie, they had to struggle through this alone. And just seeing, just seeing the abandonment that we have done as medical profession makes me angry. And it makes me really, really sad. Cause I know that most of us have gone into medicine to do the best we can and do no harm.
[01:18:32] So thank you, James, for going through this and making this movie and thank you, Dr. Christian Buckland for being his support for being his guide and for telling your story, this is the best way through the words of people is how we find out what’s exactly going on and not who they want us to know.
[01:18:52] So thank you both. And I’ll let you maybe have a conversation and let us know your thoughts about the, the movie and seeing it now with us, how you guys feel.
[01:19:02] James Wells: Thank you. Do we, do we have any questions that have come through yet or.
[01:19:08] Dr. Kat Lindley: We actually don’t have right now. So if you guys wanna start.
[01:19:15] James Wells: Okay. So I guess Christian, if, if, if we, we have a discussion, I guess what do we hope will, will come of, of this film? Well, firstly, I think, I hope that all of you that are watching this will go away and recommend to someone that you know, that they watch this as well, because that’s the aim of the film really is to raise awareness and to raise awareness for a purpose.
[01:19:45] And that purpose is these people need help. There’s lots of people around the world as you saw the international groups. The other thing to point out with that is that you know, I don’t, I, one of the things that really struck me and, and, and stayed with me for quite a long time speaking to Charlotte was the fact that she talked about the fact that early on a lot of the support groups internationally on Facebook were shut down.
[01:20:14] Now, these were just people that, that were looking for other people to discuss what had happened to them, because it is a, like I said earlier, it’s a very, very lonely place and Facebook was shutting those groups down. So, you know, when you hear about the numbers involved, the members of the group, this is vastly underestimating.
[01:20:34] The number of people actually that have been injured. I mean, if you look at the UK, the UK has a reporting system called the yellow card system. We know through decades of research that self-reported systems always undercount. We don’t know exactly by how many, by how much, but it could be as, as much as 90%.
[01:20:57] Well in the UK, the yellow card reporting system has logged 400 and oh, well over 450,000 adverse cases now of, of, of, of reporting adverse reactions. I think in terms of the number of reactions, cuz quite often when you have an, an adverse reaction, there are different symptoms that you have.
[01:21:20] There are actually over 1.5 million different adverse reactions that have been reported by those more than 450,000 people. So for me, that is a huge, huge red flag. If you quote them numbers, by the way, the UK government will tell you that you you are misleading people that it’s misinformation because these are self-reported cases which is not entirely true because doctors make up the vast majority of reported cases.
[01:21:55] And then the rest are people themselves reporting their cases, but still 450,000 people claiming that they’ve had a, a, a reaction from, from the vaccine. So the government will tell you that, that, that this is misinformation because they can’t confirm if the case are real. But on the other hand, when you ask the UK government, what they’re doing to investigate the extent of vaccine injury in the UK, they’re actually doing nothing. And that is actually one of the two leading objectives of the vaccine damages bill put forward by Sir Christopher Chope. The first is to hold a public inquiry and independent public inquiry looking at the extent. And then the second is to redevelop the, the vaccine payment system, because it’s not fit for purpose.
[01:22:45] Despite the fact that you’ve got thousands of people that have either been killed cuz of the vaccines and it’s on the coroner’s report or it’s actually on their medical records that they’ve suffered a severe reaction because of the vaccine, despite that not one payment has been made. The other thing to point out is that it hasn’t been adjusted for inflation since 2007.
[01:23:13] So the maximum payout from the system is 120,000 pounds, which is about for our us viewers here, which is about 150,000, $160,000 somewhere in that region, which quite frankly, if, if you’ve lost your job and you are permanently disabled, for example, Wayne in, in, in, in the, the film is now in a mobility scooter and on crutches. Chris also can’t work.
[01:23:45] Megan’s not working. And Claire hasn’t been able to work for over a year. 120,000 pounds just, it, it, that that’s not gonna look after you, is it? And you know, and the other thing to point out here is in putting that in context is that the, the pharmaceutical companies were given indemnity, meaning they cannot be sued.
[01:24:11] The government also spent billions in the UK and, and, and like governments across the world, they spent billions on advertising and promoting the vaccine and making sure uptake was as high as possible. So that was our money that was used to do that. And then the pharmaceuticals made billions off the back of that.
[01:24:31] And yet these people are left just by themselves alone with no support, not, not even medical support, but no financial support either. So there’s lots of things that have gone wrong. And I, like I said, I would encourage anybody watching this film tonight to tell everybody, you know, and, and, and get them to watch it as well.
[01:24:51] So yeah, that, that’s my thoughts. Christian is, is, is there anything you want to add to that?
[01:24:58] Dr. Christian Buckland: Yeah, I think, you know, we’re talking about raising awareness and I think what can happen from raising awareness is acknowledgement that these injuries exist have happened and are happening. That to me is really important.
[01:25:10] We get an acknowledgement because if we can see that it’s starting to be acknowledged, what I reckon will happen then is you’ll start to see the medical profession becoming more aware and asking more probing questions. For example, you, you know, something I’m hearing quite often is issues being dismissed as anxiety and panic attack.
[01:25:33] When actually there are issues with the heart and that’s only being then sort of found later on. So what I’m hoping is if there is more awareness and acknowledgement, then doctors, GPs, A and E, can ask more probing questions. When someone presents with chest pain, you know, just because they don’t fit into the typical age bracket of someone who’s having a heart issue.
[01:25:57] What I’d like to see is more doctors asking questions. Did you have a vaccine? And when was your last vaccine and could these be related to your heart issue? Because if we, if they do that and it is related to the vaccine, then early intervention is key. If we can get treatment early on, we can get the best recovery possible.
[01:26:17] So it’s really important. I think that we raise awareness that then leads to acknowledgement, then leads to training and and sort of asking probing questions when people present to medical professions. That’s my that’s something I’m really hoping is gonna happen from this.
[01:26:34] James Wells: Yeah. Thank you, Christian.
[01:26:36] So I think if, if it, if there’s no more questions, my kind of parting comment would be again, repeating myself. You know, go and tell people about the film. That that’s the whole purpose of the film is that as many people watch it as possible so that they understand that, that this issue is real. And there are lots of people around the world that are very, very, in a very, very lonely place and they need our help.
[01:27:04] And then finally, You know, like I said, there’s, there’s lots of vaccine injured injury groups around the world. I happen to have stumbled into a meeting with UK CV family. I think the group’s amazing. You know, they’re not the only group, but I obviously, if you want to support them, I would encourage you to do that.
[01:27:27] So if you go to www.UKCVfamily.org, and there’s a donation button on, on the website, and you can make a donation as a way of doing your bit to help people in the, in this situation. So that’s it for me. Thank you. Thank you.
[01:27:47] Dr. Christian Buckland: Was there any questions?
[01:27:48] Dr. Kat Lindley: Yes, there were some questions, but before we go there, I just wanna give you guys some of the comments that we’re getting from our livestream.
[01:27:56] There are a lot of comments about how heartbreaking the story was, and someone said, thank you for everyone who helped make this movie so important to get this out there. New Zealand is suffering the same as every other capture country. These people need urgent help.
[01:28:15] And then there’s another one from US saying that there are a lot of people who have these symptoms and so far doctors are not very keen to blame it on vaccines and it kind of goes along what you said, Christian, we need to acknowledge this as a real causation and start asking questions when we have, when we see patients who come with these complaints because it’s very important to start the treatment as soon as possible.
[01:28:43] And that kind of leads into what we did on Monday with Dr. Urso and Dr. Pierre Kory, who kind of introduced the FLCCC protocol for vaccines injuries. And there are a lot of other protocols out there. There is help. And we need to make sure that as a medical community, we reach out and do all we to make these things better.
[01:29:05] But one specific question actually, Dr. Buckland, is for you and let me find it because I think, okay, it’s from Claire. Could you please elaborate a bit more on the mental issues that people who are vaccine injured are facing right now?
[01:29:25] Dr. Christian Buckland: Yeah. There’s a lot, if I’m honest, and I think you, you know, one of the most important if we understand what’s happening is because a lot of people are feeling attacked from different directions, whether the people who are very pro the vaccine, people who are skeptical, I’m hearing reports of people attacking from different directions.
[01:29:45] Lots of people, because they’re being attacked, are withdrawing from society quite a lot. And we know that when people withdraw and kind of take themselves out of the everyday life, they, they start to feel anxious. So the levels of anxiety raised because they’re frightened about being attacked and going out there, and we also see that depression starts to rise because if we’re not taking pleasure from activities we want, we’re taking pleasure from, we actually start seeing that’s a is, is a real cause for depression.
[01:30:16] So those are two very obvious ones that I’m kind of, I’m alarmed that are gonna start happening and I can kind of see that that’s already taking place. I’m also really concerned. And it’s something I alluded to earlier that trauma, if it’s not dealt with, with care and compassion and people are encouraged to talk about the, the traumatic experience, I, I, in a safe way that.
[01:30:42] That if we do, if we stifle people talking about the traumatic experience, we greatly increase the likelihood of them developing post-traumatic stress disorder. And PTSD is a, well it can be a severely debilitating mental health condition, and it can greatly increase the risk of suicide. So something I’m very, very concerned about is by silencing and censoring people’s lived experienced stories of trauma we’re actually deliberately causing or, or increasing the likelihood of developing PTSD, which really worries me. So that’s my, those are my biggest concerns, but PTSD is one of my biggest, biggest concerns I’ve got.
[01:31:26] Dr. Kat Lindley: I agree. And there are a lot of stories of suicides as well because people don’t realize pain is a physical complaint, but pain causes not only physical pain causes emotional pain.
[01:31:39] And if you kind of couple that with the fact that no one really understands what’s going on and they’re just telling you, well, you have anxiety, you have this, you have that, there’s nothing wrong with you. The fact that we are not acknowledging some of those real issues is another cause for trauma.
[01:31:56] And it’s, it’s one of the, I believe one of the biggest strategies happening right now. So James have a question for you because of your experience as MEP. I’m gonna put you on a spot. I know it’s a hard question and it’s gonna be hard to answer, but Peter ask, why are those who can make a difference? And the example is MPs, ignoring what’s going on? What are your thoughts on what our political leadership in all the countries really not doing?
[01:32:26] James Wells: I think there are a number of different groups that you can put MPs into, and I don’t have an exhaustive list, but one of those groups is of course, a lot of the MPs supported very, very strongly the, the vaccine rollout, just like doctors did as well and medical professionals.
[01:32:49] And I think that means now it’s very, very difficult for those people just as being human beings, to actually admit they might have pushed something, which has now harmed people. So they don’t wanna look. They don’t want to talk about it. It’s too difficult because they realize that maybe they might have been part of actually helping to, to injure people.
[01:33:13] Then I think you’ve got a group groups of, of MPs that are caught in their bubble. So as an elected member of parliament, you, especially in today’s world where there’s, you know, fake news and misinformation, everybody’s scared of quoting something that isn’t necessarily true. And if you are an elective member of parliament, that that is a, that is a huge risk.
[01:33:38] So you are constantly told by your peers and from everywhere, sort of in your circle to only use trusted sources and not to listen to other sources, which might be telling a different story. So there’s those MPs that just, they just, they probably don’t even realize that this, this is happening or they’re skeptical about whether it’s real or not, whether this is some kind of anti-vax campaign or, or, or whatever.
[01:34:07] And then I think obviously there’s another group, which know. They know, and I, I, I’ve got my opinions in terms of UK politicians that know, they know whether they knew at the time that, that the vaccines would damage people is a different question, but they certainly know now that, that there is a problem and, and, and these people are ignoring it actively.
[01:34:36] I’m not a naturally cynical person. But you know, when you look at the money involved and the, the reach of these pharmaceutical companies and all of their business interests and, and where that money’s flowing, flowing into politics into media and into healthcare, then you also know there’s a group of politicians that know fully well.
[01:35:02] They know everything. And I, like I said, it’s, it’s, it’s not. It’s taken me a while to kind of accept the fact that there are people like that in our governments. And there are all around the world because I’m not a naturally cynical person, but there are, there are people who know exactly what’s going on and they, they don’t care.
[01:35:22] They don’t care. So it, it, it’s a very, very difficult thing to broach. And so Christopher chop has done a brilliant job in the UK, but even he now has been attacked. So he has said on many occasions that he believes there are probably tens of thousands in the UK that have been vaccine injured.
[01:35:47] And the head of the UK stats authority has actually written to Sir Christopher Chope to slap him down to say, there are no official statistics that back his claims that there, there might be tens of thousands. And so it’s kind of gaslighting in a way, because there are no official statistics because they’re not looking, nobody’s doing any real analysis of the yellow card reporting system.
[01:36:13] So even Sir Christopher Chope now is being attacked by the establishment and, and being ostracized. And this is the way they work. People who put their head up above the parapet who have a, a voice that reaches, what they tend to do is they tend to go for, as we say, in football, they tend to go for the man instead of the ball and, and they slander and they undermine and they try to discredit the person involved.
[01:36:41] And that’s going on with Sir Christopher Chope at the moment. So there’s probably a lot of MPs as well that just don’t, then for whatever reason, I mean, you know, they’re elected to represent their constituents. And as far as I’m concerned they should be looking self in the mirror if they’re not doing that job properly, cuz I certainly would do that job properly.
[01:37:01] But for whatever reason, you know, they’re, they’re, they’re, they’re too too afraid for their careers. And this is a problem we’ve got all around the world is that politicians, these days see going into politics as a career instead of a, instead of a calling. And that’s part of the problem we’ve got.
[01:37:18] So there’s lots of different reasons, but you know, I think I’ve outlined some of the main, main reasons why our, our, our politicians, cuz not all of them are bad. You know, some of them actually are good people and for whatever reason, for whether whichever group they’re in, they’re not speaking up and they need to.
[01:37:38] Dr. Kat Lindley: Thank you, James. I actually feel exactly the same. I always say at the end of the day, at the end of your life, you’re gonna have to look at yourself in a mirror and see if you’ve done the right thing or not. And in United States, we’re lucky to have Senator Ron Johnson and Australia has Senator Malcolm Roberts who has been on the side of the people and doing the right thing.
[01:38:00] But you’re right. It’s very difficult position for them. And my hope is that each and every day we’re all gonna wake up a little bit more and the fight for what’s right. Along those lines, there is a question. What do you guys think can be done more? How can we legally challenge them to invest in raising awareness about the adverse impact?
[01:38:24] From my standpoint as a physician, I always say informed consent is the way to go. I feel that informed consent statue has not been met, but what are your thoughts?
[01:38:33] James Wells: In terms of what we can do. Well, I think, you know, I’ve, I’ve thought long and hard and I don’t wanna go into the politics, the wider politics of what’s going on in the world at the moment.
[01:38:45] So I won’t talk about that, but what I will talk about is what I think is the way out of this. And it’s the only way out this as far as I can see. And that is that there’s an awful lot of people that are caught up implementing whatever that’s going on for, for lots of different reasons though. But the point is there’s very few people in the world that really are pushing an agenda.
[01:39:10] Very, very few people and the rest are either bought, misinformed or, or whatever, whichever group they’re in, but they’re going along with it. And the point of that is, is that for those people that are pushing the agenda and they know what’s going on, they rely on us, on you, me and, and everybody else in society to implement their agenda.
[01:39:34] And so the more people that we wake up the more people that will say no, and that, that is the way outta this. There is no other way because unfortunately the, the financial power that has been built up with these organizations and with, with, you know, BlackRock and, and everything else like, so I don’t wanna get into the politics, but there are very, very powerful entities behind what is going on in the pharmaceutical companies and, and whatnot.
[01:40:04] Trying to fight that head on for people like me and, and, and other individuals and even groups is, is an almost impossible task. But what we can do is wake other human beings up, cuz we’re all human and we all live on this planet and we all want essentially a, a better world. I don’t, I don’t know anybody who would get up and say, well, I don’t want a better world.
[01:40:26] I don’t want a world where we can actually all just get along and be happy. And so essentially, you know, people, they’re, inside, deep down inside, they want to be woken up and it’s up to people like me and you and others that are awake. It’s up to us to go and wake them people up. And the way that we do that, it’s not with data and it’s not with information and arguments.
[01:40:52] It’s, it’s, it’s through our humanity. It’s about telling stories about people. It’s about sharing human experience. And that is the way I think that we wake people up, but that’s what we need to do. And so everybody, if you are watching this now, then you are one of those people that is awake. And you know, if, if, if, if, if you want to make the world a better place, then you need to start by waking other people up.
[01:41:18] And that’s my mission. That’s what I, that’s what I I’m doing with, with my life now. I’ve, I’ve given up everything to do that.
[01:41:28] Dr. Kat Lindley: I appreciate that, James, it’s a very powerful statement. And it is, it is up to us to actually do our job and wake up the person next to us and, and, and start having them help the rest of us who want a better way forward.
[01:41:43] I do have one final question and it’s going to be for you, Christian, cuz I think this is probably the most important question of the night. What type of resources do we have out there to help, especially from the mental health aspect, you know, you talked about trauma, the PTSD, suicide, because that’s what’s happening right now.
[01:42:02] A lot of them are alone in the dark. And sometimes when you feel that way and you feel like there’s nowhere else to turn, you do decide to take your life. So what are some of the resources that, you know, are out there for help? And if there aren’t there, how do we set them up? What are your thoughts on that?
[01:42:20] I know world council tries to do as much as we can, and we definitely wanna be a resource, but we need to find resources in every community. So what are your thoughts?
[01:42:30] Dr. Christian Buckland: Yeah. It’s a really important question. In the UK, you know, the, the one charity that I’m a such a fan of is the Samaritans. And I think that everyone, you know, every group that is set up in the UK to support anyone who’s vaccine injured needs to kind of ensure they, they have all the details for the Samaritans, because I I’ve, I’ve, I’ve done some work for them in the past, and it’s a very nonjudgmental free service where they’re just there to listen and be with you.
[01:43:02] Because to me, when someone is feeling highly suicidal, they often feel extremely alone and they feel there is no hope. And just having someone reach out to you and be there with you can sometimes get people through a really, really dark place. The power of just talking is so, so fundamental. So I do think that that in the UK is, is, is such an important resource that is sometimes overlooked.
[01:43:31] So I do urge every group that’s out there in the UK to make sure that, that, you know, their members have the, the details of the Samaritans, because they might be in a good place today. We don’t know what they’re gonna be tomorrow, a week, six months later. And I would assume there’ll be something very similar in most countries around.
[01:43:50] I, I, I would be optimistic of that in terms of what else is out there. It’s a good question. When the hard things here is that, you know, a lot of the injuries are being blamed on mental health aspects. So there is also a lot of mistrust now in the medical profession and in the psychological profession, because when someone is going for help for a physical injury and they feel they’ve been I’m just gonna use an inverted comma, they feel they’ve been fobbed off with a referral to mental health services that can actually lead to people to think, well, I don’t wanna speak to them at all. And that’s really worrying as well. So I think that, you know, we have a problem with elevated risk levels of suicide. That is for sure, I would urge anyone who is struggling or feels they might be struggling to actually reach out to someone from the psychological profession, whether that is finding someone privately, if you can afford it.
[01:44:54] And that, and there is one of the biggest problems, cuz lots of people have already spent so much money trying to get physical diagnoses and treatment that unfortunately, you know, there often isn’t the funding available to go privately for mental health treatment. But I would recommend, you know, even if it’s just seeing someone for a one of appointment just to try and talk through what’s going on, can be really powerful, getting a good assessment about where you are at.
[01:45:22] There are also some great charities mind in the UK as well. Same line. So there are, are really, really important charities that will help, but moving forward what’s needed. That goes along with the awareness and the acknowledgement that’s there. Because I think once we get that acknowledgement, it’s going be very clear that in additional, in addition to the physical treatment that they need, they are going to need the psychological help and support and emotional support.
[01:45:52] And I think that will come. So in a way, it, it, it’s this sort of stepping stone that I think’s happening at the moment, which is raising awareness, then acknowledgement, then changes in treatment will start to get support for the emotional, emotional aspects. But my concern is in this immediate period, there are a lot of people who are really struggling.
[01:46:12] And I would say reach out to a friend, family, someone just be honest with how you feel, because sometimes just being able to be vulnerable and say, this is how I’m feeling, can you help me? You you’ll find some real goodness in humanity. And you can find in those dark moments that someone will be able to help support you.
[01:46:29] I wish I had a better answer for that question, cause it is such an important one. But my big thing is reach out to somebody. And if there isn’t someone you trust go somewhere like the Samaritans and just talk through what’s going on because you may well feel differently in the morning.
[01:46:44] Dr. Kat Lindley: I agree. Thank you, Christian. And also UK CV family is doing a wonderful job at helping out everyone. And I know in United States we have C19 React and there are other countries that have different support groups and different vaccine injured group who doing a wonderful job. Trying to find resources and other things to help the community.
[01:47:08] One thing I just kind of wanna plug in a little bit there is this campaign that’s starting up with UK CV family is a co-sponsor and React 19 and World Council, a Children’s Health Defense, Global COVID Summit. It’s called, Can We Talk About It Campaign. And that’s gonna be coming up next week and it’s along this line that we all have to get together to talk about it.
[01:47:30] And like you said, Christian, acknowledge it and figure out how to go forward. So thank you both for being here with us, James, I would actually like to leave– Christian, go ahead.
[01:47:43] Dr. Christian Buckland: I just wanted say one last thing, cuz it it’s just it’s important to me. If anyone is feeling suicidal or they’re feel they’re at high risk, do not hesitate to in the UK to call 999 or whatever the emergency services in your area or attend A&E.
[01:48:00] I just wanna make that very clear that even if you felt you’ve been gaslit in the past or something, if you feel suicidal and you feel that you’re in, in danger, please reach out to emergency services or attend A&E. So sorry to just there, but I wanted, wanted to get that clear.
[01:48:16] Dr. Kat Lindley: That’s really important. And I think I shared with you, I’ve worked with veterans group and they have something that they call Spartan pledge and Spartan pledge is exactly that you find that one friend, one individual that in the darkness, when you feel alone, there is one person you gonna call and say, I need you now. There’s no questions asked.
[01:48:35] And something like that I think will go a long way. And it’s very important. If you get to that point, when you need help, you reach out, then someone will be there. Yeah. So thank you both. This is a story that needs to be told, and I hope is shared all over the world and we hear more stories like this because only through human stories where we actually start feeling the gravity of the situation.
[01:49:01] So James, I would like to actually have you close, your final thoughts because I know this has been a journey for you. I know this is where you really feel you can contribute the most, and it’s very important for you to lead the fight forward and find a better way. So please close the evening for us.
[01:49:24] James Wells: Right. Well, I mean, I want, I want to end on a, on a positive note and that is, you know, if you do feel alone, just know that there are lots of people like me and lots of others out there that are fighting for you. And we’re not gonna go anywhere. We’re not gonna be silenced and we will be your voice and we will fight for you.
[01:49:49] So don’t feel alone because there are good people in the world that are fighting for you and we will not stop.
[01:49:56] Dr. Kat Lindley: Great. Thank you both. And thank you all for watching the movie with us and we’ll see you next Monday at our General Assembly Meeting.